Crash Problem

I was wondering if anyone can help with this problem Iam having.

I havent played EoC for a while, but got the urge so I tried installing it and patched to 14.6. Problem is now whenever I start the game, it crashes back to desktop somewhere between 3 to 30 seconds after loading. I cant even get a instant action game started before it crashes. I tried uninstalling it and starting over, ran it without the patch, even deleted the plantes file which I understand gave some people problems. I have up to date drivers for my Radeon 9000 vid card and have tried to disable the sound. But none of that helps.

Any Ideas?

Umm, uh. Nothing?
Should I provide some more info? If so, what would be helpful?

Thanks.

It seems like a video driver issue. But sound is easier to start there.

How did you disable the sound?

When does it crash? During spaceflight only? During the start of game menu? When a ship jumps in through the gate?

EoC did run at one time? On this computer with this hardware? Are you running other games without any problems?

People often run earlier driver versions, if the current ones do not support an old game.

I diabled the sound in the flux file. No effect.

It will crash within 2-3 seconds after I start the game, then crash back to the desktop, if you try to start it again, it will last for approx 30 seconds, then crash back to the desktop, if you try it agian after that, 2-3 seonds, and so on, like it is in a loop.

No it did not run on this particular hardrive. No, none of my other games suffer from this problem. It may be a driver issue, and the looping nature of the time between crashes is, unexpexted.

Are there any known issues with Radeon 9000 vid cards?

can you post the last few lines of the Flux.log?

If it is a driver problem, I would hop over to the Atari North America forum and ask. There are several Radeon users over there who might be able to help. I have only used Nvidia (which has its own issues).

What about joysticks? Try starting your computer with no joystick plugged in. And select keyboard only. (I am not recommending that you play this way, but some input devices have caused crashes) One issue with star shatter was resolved by not using a logitek wireless keyboard. Something to consider.

Ok here is the flux log.


LOADER: [unknown] Entering WinMain
FLUX: [unknown] Trying to create application of class "iwar2.icGame"
FLUX: [unknown] Application created successfully
FLUX: [unknown] Starting Flux services...
FLUX: [unknown] Starting resource manager...
FLUX: [unknown] Starting devices...
DXINPUT: [unknown] **** Initialising fcInputDeviceDI...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Creating DirectInput...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Looking for keyboard...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Looking for mouse...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Looking for joysticks...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Setting cooperative level
DXINPUT: [unknown] Initialising force-feedback support...
DXINPUT: [unknown] WARNING: Forcefeedback support unavailable
DXINPUT: [unknown] **** Device initialised OK
FLUX: [unknown] Starting input mapper...
FLUX: [unknown] Input mapper started successfully
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] ******** Binding fcGraphicsDeviceD3D to window...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for compatible display drivers...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found display driver "Primary Display Driver"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Driver is really "RADEON 9000 SERIES "
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Total video memory: 60.3047MB
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for Direct3D devices for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "RGB Emulation"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Device is neither the basic HAL nor the T&L HAL - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] (Device type: RGB)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "Direct3D HAL"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Preferred device not found - still looking
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "Direct3D T&L HAL"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found preferred device: T&L HAL
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for depth buffer formats for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found 16 bit depth buffer format
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Format is suitable - ending search
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for display modes for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x200 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x200 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.37MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x200 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.73MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x240 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x240 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.44MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x240 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.88MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 400x300 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 400x300 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.69MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 400x300 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.4MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 512x384 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 512x384 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.1MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 512x384 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~2.3MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x400 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x400 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x400 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~2.9MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x480 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x480 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.8MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x480 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~3.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 800x600 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 800x600 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~2.7MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 800x600 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~5.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1024x768 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1024x768 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~4.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1024x768 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~9MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1152x864 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1152x864 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~5.7MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1152x864 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~11MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x768 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x768 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~5.6MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x768 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~11MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x960 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x960 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~7MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x960 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~14MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x1024 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x1024 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~7.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x1024 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~15MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] DirectDraw driver "RADEON 9000 SERIES " is OK - adding to driver list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found display driver "RADEON 9000 SERIES "
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Total video memory: 60.3047MB
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for Direct3D devices for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "RGB Emulation"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Device is neither the basic HAL nor the T&L HAL - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] (Device type: RGB)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "Direct3D HAL"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Preferred device not found - still looking
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "Direct3D T&L HAL"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found preferred device: T&L HAL
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for depth buffer formats for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found 16 bit depth buffer format
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Format is suitable - ending search
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for display modes for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x200 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x200 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.37MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x200 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.73MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x240 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x240 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.44MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 320x240 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.88MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 400x300 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 400x300 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~0.69MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 400x300 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.4MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 512x384 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 512x384 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.1MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 512x384 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~2.3MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x400 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x400 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x400 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~2.9MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x480 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x480 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~1.8MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 640x480 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~3.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 800x600 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 800x600 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~2.7MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 800x600 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~5.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1024x768 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1024x768 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~4.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1024x768 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~9MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1152x864 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1152x864 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~5.7MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1152x864 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~11MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x768 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x768 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~5.6MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x768 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~11MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x960 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x960 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~7MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x960 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~14MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x1024 8 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Bit depth is unsupported - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x1024 16 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~7.5MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found RGB display mode: 1280x1024 32 colour bits
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Video memory required for this mode: ~15MB (assuming z-depth matches colour depth)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Mode is OK - adding to mode list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] DirectDraw driver "RADEON 9000 SERIES " is OK - adding to driver list
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] ******** Device bound OK
FLUX: [unknown] Attempting to start/restart graphics device...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] ******** fcGraphicsDeviceD3D initialising...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found 16 bit depth buffer format
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Checking pixel format against desired depth...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Pixel format does not match depth - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found 24 bit depth buffer format
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Checking pixel format against desired depth...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Pixel format does not match depth - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found 32 bit depth buffer format
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Checking pixel format against desired depth...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Format is suitable - ending search
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found depth buffer size: 32
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Reading D3D device identifier and description...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Using driver "RADEON 9000 SERIES "
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] (Vendor ID: 4098 Device ID: 18790)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Driver is WHQL certified (level 1)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Enabling workarounds for bad hardware/drivers...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Enumerating texture formats...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Choosing formats for lookup tables...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Building render state translation tables...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] D3D Driver does not support Flux correctly and may exhibit a loss of visual quality
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Setting gamma to 1
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] ******** Device initialised OK
DX7SOUND: [unknown] ******** fcSoundDeviceDA initialising...
DX7SOUND: [unknown] ******** Device initialised OK
FLUX: [unknown] No class specified for CD Audio device
FLUX: [unknown] All devices started successfully
FLUX: [unknown] Game initialisation complete

I left out the last parts, it was about the mods, which I have removed before, but with no affect.

Also I do not use a joystick. But I have a Logitech wireless mouse, could that cause a similar problem.
Thanks.