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19 years 10 months ago #10585 by MajorTom
Replied by MajorTom on topic Another wierd crash
For starters you seem to be missing the "dx7graph.fcGraphicsDeviceD3D", which should look like below: (unless you just cut those lines out when you pasted your log?)

DXINPUT: [unknown] **** Device initialised OK
FLUX: [unknown] Starting input mapper...
FLUX: [unknown] Input mapper started successfully
FLUX: [unknown] Creating device to implement "FiGraphicsDevice" with class "dx7graph.fcGraphicsDeviceD3D"...
FLUX: [unknown] Device creation succeeded
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] ******** Binding fcGraphicsDeviceD3D to window...

Why the installation directory takes so long to come up, I dunno?

I do know, that one version of the nf2 IDE driver (1.5?) had a serious problem in respect to copy protection and was replaced.
But, that wouldn't explain why the EOC directory should take so long to show? (unless you/WinXP left half of the directory contents on the CD when you installed it).

Can you open the EOC directory immediatly if the CD is not in the a cd drive at all?



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19 years 10 months ago #10586 by Aquasesh
Replied by Aquasesh on topic Another wierd crash
No..i cant...i tried it..with and without cd...takes always the same time...all other folders are fine.
never seen behavior like that.
Im currently playing X2 The Threat and it works fine...although i dont find it as near as good as EOC.
Im using the latest NForce drivers. 4.26 that is. I downloaded them yesterday.

Flux trace output started
Time: Tue Jun 15 21:50:47 2004
User: "Aquasesh" on "AQUASESH-SERVER"
Operating system: Windows 2000Service Pack 1version 5.1

FLUX: [unknown] Approximate CPU frequency: 2338MHz
LOADER: [unknown] Entering WinMain
FLUX: [unknown] Trying to create application of class "iwar2.icGame"
FLUX: [unknown] Application created successfully
FLUX: [unknown] Starting Flux services...
FLUX: [unknown] Starting resource manager...
FLUX: [unknown] Starting devices...
DXINPUT: [unknown] **** Initialising fcInputDeviceDI...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Creating DirectInput...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Looking for keyboard...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Looking for mouse...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Looking for joysticks...
DXINPUT: [unknown] Setting cooperative level
DXINPUT: [unknown] Initialising force-feedback support...
DXINPUT: [unknown] WARNING: Forcefeedback support unavailable
DXINPUT: [unknown] **** Device initialised OK
FLUX: [unknown] Starting input mapper...
FLUX: [unknown] Input mapper started successfully
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] ******** Binding fcGraphicsDeviceD3D to window...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for compatible display drivers...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found display driver "Primary Display Driver"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Driver is really "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Total video memory: 118.797MB
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for Direct3D devices for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "RGB Emulation"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Device is neither the basic HAL nor the T&L HAL - skipping
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] (Device type: RGB)
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "Direct3D HAL"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Preferred device not found - still looking
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found Direct3D device "Direct3D T&L HAL"
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found preferred device: T&L HAL
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for depth buffer formats for driver...
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Found 16 bit depth buffer format
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Format is suitable - ending search
DX7GRAPH: [unknown] Looking for display modes for driver...

thats the flux.log now...i think it didnt edit properly because i was never able to correctly leave the game...the freezing
must have caused the ini and log not to be written when exit.

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19 years 10 months ago #10587 by MajorTom
Replied by MajorTom on topic Another wierd crash
I have an idea:
You're using the German game version on an english OS and
the German version of the game uses a path like this

"<your drive letter>:\Programme\Infogrames\Edge of Chaos - Indepedence War 2\EdgeOfChaos.exe"

I'm pretty sure the english/US version uses another path. I think without "Edge of Chaos -"?? It could well be, the game also looks for a different path on an english OS?
Your registry may be looking around and eventually finding it but it takes so long that flux just crashes?

If you make a shortcut on your desktop to the EOC install directory will it open immediatly if you double click on it?
What happens if you make a new shortcut on your desktop pointing to the EdgeOfChaos.exe in the EOC directory?

You need to get the issue with the delayed explorer resolved before you mess around with the the driver/flux log stuff anymore because, as you said, it could well be flux just isn't updating due to crashes:

If it still doesn't work after you've got the directory/registry sorted:
You could try windowed mode to see if it runs then. Back up your flux. ini somewheres and then change the one in the game in it's[FcGame] section to like this:

full_screen = 0
width = 640
height = 480
bit_depth = 16

Also change it way down at the bottom in the section [Debug] like this:

developer_mode = 1

Maybe flux will update then, and you can post a new flux.log?

Just, don't forget to change flux.ini back before you play ;)

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19 years 10 months ago #10590 by Aquasesh
Replied by Aquasesh on topic Another wierd crash
well....im not sure because i install it on a different HDD and different folder. " E:\Games\Edge of Chaos - Indepedence War 2"
i created a few logs now...including Flux.log and Access.log... access.log goes up to the crash.
funny enough...no videos shown in window mode. i blame that for the crash ingame.
when i start a new game, the intro movie is not shown and it jumps right into the space.
i had that once before, after editing the flux.ini but forgetting to copy the movies over. same behavior here, even inspace.
but movies are copied.

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19 years 10 months ago #10591 by Aquasesh
Replied by Aquasesh on topic Another wierd crash
OK...i think im one step further. I disabled the sound in flux.ini...and i can get into the game. Even though the movies still have sound (which is logical, because they have nothing to do with the sound engine).
Weird is that it jumps into the cockpit right away, when i start a new game and then after 10sec the intro movie starts.
Could be the Developer mode.
Anyway, it seems to be a sound problem. But i dont know how to fix it yet.
I use a Game Theater 7.1. I might have to check the settings of the card. I got it for ages and it never made problems
with EOC ( maybe DX9 problem)

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19 years 10 months ago #10592 by MajorTom
Replied by MajorTom on topic Another wierd crash
Of course, the actual path doesn't matter nor the drive letter (if you haven't changed it after installing the game).

What I meant was that it could be exactly the Edge of Chaos - Indepedence War 2 part that's messing it up.

I dunno, but the charachter "-" may be interpreted differently on US/English Systems or have another/different Ansi code number?
(Somehow I remember something about that, but I'm not sure.)

Maybe just uninstall and then re-install to E:\Games\IWar2

Might help? (and can't make things worse);)


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